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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1978-10-21

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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1978-10-21


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This show is available commercially on "Road Trips: Vol 1, Number 4: Winterland 1978"

Ollin Arrageed*-> Promised Land, Sugaree, Passenger, Ramble On Rose, Looks Like Rain, Stagger Lee, I Need A Miracle Bertha-> Good Lovin', It Must Have Been The Roses, Estimated Prophet-> He's Gone-> Drums**-> I Got My Mojo Workin-> The Other One-> Stella Blue-> Sugar Magnolia, E: U.S. Blues


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Winterland Arena
Location San Francisco, CA

Source Soundboard
Lineage sbd> mr> dats> wav> shn

Notes

sbd> mr> dats> wav> shn; dat> wav> shn by popi n. feeldz from Michael Grossman DAT seed; see info file for flaw and patch notes

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Reviews

Reviewer: DJJazzZD - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 2, 2015
Subject: Other One
Not the greatest of all time tho, the crescendo build up at the end of verse two puts it in the revered class. Estimated stands out as does the Stella and Mojo. My favorites from " From Egypt with love" are the above mentioned as well as pre drums from 10/20 and post drums from 10/17.
Reviewer: kneadles1 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 22, 2015
Subject: "We're gonna take a snort break, and we suggest you do too!"
love it....those were the beginnings of the coke days...
pace is pickin up and the boys are ready for another brilliant few years.

5 Stars for all of our Snort Breaks
Reviewer: brewster - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 27, 2015
Subject: This show is highlighted in Rolling Stones article
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 18, 2015
Subject: The best Stella Blue ever.
No others even come close.
Reviewer: feather0926 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 21, 2010
Subject: the OTHER 1
Yes this is a good show I wouldn't rate it as great. I'll give it 4 stars just for Mojo & Stella Blue. As far as the Other One is concerned this is an OK version. I think a better version is 03-09-81, MSG, NYC. Another good version of TOO is 08-13-79, Denver, CO. However the BEST versions are from '72. Agree/disagree?
Reviewer: utopian - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 25, 2010
Subject: Stagger lee
Egypt was a watershed period for the band and the sound was evolving again at this point.

The stagger lee is simply sublime ( not my favorite song) and holds a depth of majesty that begs it to be played, frequently.

Mojo working has the most open jamming of the whole show.

Check out
11-20-78
11-23-78
11-23-78
Reviewer: chookdead - favoritefavoritefavorite - March 21, 2008
Subject: other one?! ill look for another one
why is everyone (including Dick himself!) wetting themselves over this other one. its weak! it gets good at one point which is just after the second verse (6 minutes in). it is quite rockin at that point and i do love it but i dont plan on wasting my time with it again. i cant believe this. you want a great other one check out DP 23, 18, 16. Or try my personal favorite 1978-01-22. and if you want a lil something in the 80's/90's try 1985-11-08 or 1990-03-22. im sure ill get some hate for this but every version i've mentioned is better than this one. im just shocked at people's response to this less than average other one. focus more on the overall sound and accumulation of the instruments, its the grateful dead, not Jerry Garcia and the jerry 5
Reviewer: Evan S. Hunt - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 19, 2008
Subject: Ready For Anything From Egypt With Love
One thing about going to a Grateful Dead concert is that you have to be ready for anything. This was my fourth in a row and when out came Hamza El Din I thought oh no! long, boring drum solo, and it was. We're out in the audience all hopped-up, raring to go and champing at the bit for rock and roll and they start set one with Youd and bongos. Expect anything. Be Ready. But we got thru it all right, what can I say? So, what the hell, I just decided to go along with it and of course, wouldn't I be the one who really gets into it? I get so high into Ollin Arageed I start spinning like a spinner. After I smacked myself in the face I decided to calm it down a bit, and then a marvelous half acoustic/half electric jam ensued. Phil burping all along the way. Oh, but what an entrance to Promised Land! Spectacular!

Rock and roll! Chuck Berry! Promised Land! This is great Grateful Dead. They scorch. Even Phil sings.
Jerry fanning his way into tomorrowland!

From there every song a masterpiece - just the way you like'em - all thru the first and second set. Powerful leads, generous shouting, lots of heavy glissando from transition to transition, much rave-up guitar. And their execution: playing and singing is crisp, accurate, easy and sure. This is another great one, folks!

This one deserves 8 stars. If the bass sounded better it would merit 10 stars.
Reviewer: Estim8ed8 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 12, 2007
Subject: OTHER ONE!!!
I was already aware of this show for some time. And I abused the crap out of my tape back in the day. But recently my buddy literally forced me to listen to the Space>Mojo>Other One>Stella and it took my appreciation of the Dead to an entirely new level.
I can't recall the last time I have heard this much FEROCITY in Jerry's playing (during Other One, of course). And to contrast it by following it up with perhaps the sweetest Stella Blue of all time is further illustration of how legendary a guitar player and vocalist Jerome John Garcia really was. Thanks to the Boyz!!
Reviewer: unclesam77 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 3, 2007
Subject: nugs
If you go onto Nugs.net you can download the soundboards of this whole winterland run. This stella blue is incredible
Reviewer: FTH - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 6, 2007
Subject: CLASSIC SHOW
AS A VET OF APPROX 200 SHOWS (75% PRE 1980) THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEST I WAS AT.IF YOU RATE YOUR SHOWS BASED ON THE QUALITY OF THE PERFORMANCE, THIS HAS TO BE NEAR THE TOP. IF YOU RATE THEM BASED ON THE QUALITY OF THE RECORDING, I THINK YOU MISS THE POINT.
Reviewer: coldironshackles - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 6, 2007
Subject: Stellar Blue!
What a killer ending! Funny about the Deep Space political comment below.
Reviewer: gruUbic - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 10, 2006
Subject: Mojo
that's it --- 5
Reviewer: Teaklee - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 7, 2006
Subject: A core performance
Every year has its core shows. Every era has a few shows that captures the band at their peak right before they move on and explore new directions. They did that throughout their career, which for some keeps the music fresh, while disenchanting others who liked it they way it was. Anyways back to this show...which is a fine example of the 1978 sound which featured an very "clean" sound from Garcia and slide guitar work from Weir. Plus Donna finally seemed to find her place in the overall sound. TO me the highlight of this show was the solid first set. Ollin Agagreed built up nice and steady as each band member jumped into the mix that started with a simple drum beat and chant, adding to the jam until it morphed into a beautiful cascade of Grateful Dead bliss, which then blended into a smokin Promised Land. Sugaree took on the same kinda pattern. Later on we are treated to a an altime Stagger Lee, which featured fine slide work from Weir. High energy found all over the place during Miracle>Bertha>Good Lovin. Another highlight is the post drumz Mojo>Other One Stella. This was a tape that I wore out long ago. A little hiss but overall well worth a listen.
Reviewer: VAJetsFan - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 2, 2005
Subject: The Mojo
The Mojo>Other One>Stella is clearly the highlight of this one. The explosiveness of the first Other One jam will make you jump out of your seat!
Reviewer: Dstone5553 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 21, 2005
Subject: just wondering
when oh when will someone unearth a copy of this set with an uncut stella?

i guess as soon as we get a sdb of 6.20.83 and 6.18.83...
Reviewer: seedanrun - favoritefavoritefavorite - July 18, 2005
Subject: Great show, too fast
I echo the praise that other reviewers have posted about the quality of the show. However, the archived copy is clearly pitched too high; as confirmation, the timings on the songs are a bit shorter than those listed in Deadbase. After a bit of work, I came up with a 2.4% correction factor that sounds right.
So, most highly recommended if you have SoundForge or CoolEdit to do a bit of tweaking...
Reviewer: seedanrun - favoritefavoritefavorite - July 18, 2005
Subject: Great show, too fast
I echo the praise that other reviewers have posted about the quality of the show. However, the archived copy is clearly pitched too high; as confirmation, the timings on the songs are a bit shorter than those listed in Deadbase. After a bit of work, I came up with a 2.4% correction factor that sounds right.
So, most highly recommended if you have SoundForge or CoolEdit to do a bit of tweaking...
Reviewer: boobychew - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 1, 2005
Subject: A++++++
this show I had on tape for years and just about wore it out. perfetc quality, almost too clear! Playing by all members is top notch, very tight. Ollin>Promised is pure dead and what they are so good at, fluid transitions. I can't say enough about this show, it only gets better and better. Sugaree is screetching, as is Passenger. Possibly my favorite versions of Ramble On and Stagger ever. IF all this is not enough...the real treat comes from the Space>Mojo>Other One>Stella...jesus...this is a MUST have.
Reviewer: one_love - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 18, 2005
Subject: legendary
The sickest,most beautiful Stella Blue ever...bottom line
Reviewer: the dork - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 23, 2005
Subject: Pretty Good
This is the show that got me turned onto the dead. Saw it on nugs.net, a stellar website at that. Always liked the Promised land and the sugaree jam. Stella Blue is good too.
Reviewer: stratocaster - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 13, 2005
Subject: 10-21-1978
the tape sounds good despite the splices/ cuts...mojo is interesting and well jammed, the segue into other one is well executed and the other one itself is packed with energy and features a great Garcia peak...Stella Blue is a perfectly realized arrangement...
Reviewer: irashai27 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 28, 2005
Subject: this is the (other) one...
...that i play for people when they say that the dead were just a soft hippie-dippie band. the peak peels paint off walls and removes even the toughest stains!
Reviewer: Deep Space - favoritefavoritefavorite - January 22, 2005
Subject: Solid but not outstanding
3 star show. Hilights include: Stagger Lee, Mojo, Other One.

I can never understand when guys hand out 5 stars like George Bush hands out tax cuts to the drug companies.
Reviewer: nyc oldie - favoritefavoritefavorite - January 19, 2005
Subject: Great stagger lee
I was just a year into seeing shows, but Stagger Lee was fast becoming a favorite of mine. This show is a great example of that song. Weir almost plays slide correctly! For all of us who sat thru his trying to learn in, its a good to hear it working, albeit shortly.

Mojo is fun also. Havent got too worked up over the rest.
Reviewer: Stanlee1013 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 22, 2004
Subject: Etsimated
This show was one of my first. The analog just kept on runnin'. I have always enjoyed this estimated. Jerry's flow just makes my senses sing!!
Reviewer: Mario S. - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 30, 2004
Subject: Very Good Show 4.3 out of 5
Everyone talks about the Stella Blue which is nice but I have heard better, with all due respect to those who exalted this version. The Bertha> Goodlovin, however, is incredible with the group harmonizing beautifully. The sound is good but a little thin.
Reviewer: Fitz1 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 3, 2004
Subject: Superhot!!!!
This was one of the 1st shows in my collection. For that reason alone it holds a special place in my heart. The band was really tight after their brief foray into Egypt. THE OTHER ONE!!!! 'nuff said.
Reviewer: redbones - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 2, 2004
Subject: Stella Blue
Despite the cut, this Stella Blue is overwhelming. It moves me to tears as only Garcia can. The rest of the second set kicks ass also.
Reviewer: BobFV - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 11, 2004
Subject: What's All This Egyptian Stuff?
I drove up from UC Santa Cruz with my girlfriend to attend this show - walking up Post street bought an unofficial egypt tee shirt from a street vendor, then once in the hall there were slides of the band playing at the pyramids projected over the stage and a bunch of guys in turbans up there chanting and playing their inane crap on traditional instruments. The house lights were up. When the turban guys finished the lights went down, the band came out, and it was a real Dead show - situation normal, with the addition of the slides of the Egypt trip which they continued to project over the stage. Fantastic show from the period.
Reviewer: Slipknot ! - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 27, 2004
Subject: From Egypt with MUCH LOVE !
IMHO,as a long time Deadhead,this 2nd set is truly INSPIRED and absolutely mind blowing. When I picked up and moved to Tahoe back in the day, I was only able to take a handful of my tapes in my backpack. Well, this one (out of 100's) made the move. This is simply a must hear. Pay close attention to the 'Estimated > He's Gone', but it is the insane 'JAM > MOJO (w/ Lee Oskar on Harmonica) !!! > THE OTHER ONE !!!!' that tears the whole building down. This 'Other One' is surely in my top 3 all time ! After the last verse, it just becomes this incendiary, runaway musical freight train, THEN ALL IS BLISS -2 words - 'Stella Blue' - gorgeous, ethereal,full of that Garcia NECTAR (unfortunately the SBD is scarred by a nasty cut) Nonetheless - Get this one for the cosmic 2nd set. The 1st set is def. good, but rarely gets into my player due to the jaw dropping 2nd !
Reviewer: s66 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 5, 2004
Subject: It found me!
This was my very first tape, that i listened too until it broke. Thanks for posting, the Estimated is SICK!!!
Reviewer: GMW - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 17, 2004
Subject: Setting the record 'straight'
Review does not reflect sound quality of show. Nor should it.

I was at this show. Killer then. Killer now. No Debate.
Reviewer: mystickaya - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 14, 2004
Subject: WHOA!!!!
Who the hell could give this show 2 stars?!?!? This is one of THOSE shows!!!!!!! The best Other One out there!!!! This show is BIG TIME!!!!!
Reviewer: Jeffrey-O - favoritefavorite - April 7, 2004
Subject: Must be an FM SBD!
Good Show, but show has a some hiss to it for a SBD!.
Reviewer: Jeffrey-O - favoritefavorite - April 7, 2004
Subject: Must be an FM SBD!
Good Show, but show has a some hiss to it.
Reviewer: Jeffrey-O - favoritefavorite - April 7, 2004
Subject: Must be an FM SBD!
Good Show, but show has a some hiss to it.
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